Further contemplation

To take this even a step further. Are any of our relationships not established in pleasure? Pleasure is a form of attachment, right? Is pleasure love? Pleasure is known through our past experiences. So pleasure is the response of memory of past experiences. Therefore, pleasure is a manifestation of impartial and conditioned experience, and love is not a product of the mind. Is love ever free from attachment? Are any of our relationships free from attachment? Even those relationships I have with my clients, are relationships based on some sort of reward. Even our relationships within spirituality are based on some form of attachment, when we seek to achieve is that not just another ritual of attachment? I even discovered reading a book can be a form of attachment. Does anyone have a relationship where attachment is absent .. is it possible to have love for another that is liberated from some form of pleasure, reward, attachment? Even the relationship with have with ourself - self-expression and self-fulfillment - is a form of pleasure. I realized today that I have not had one relationship which is an expression of love. I know what love is not. Love is not jealousy, envy, anger, greed, submission, domination, fear, pleasure, pain, hurt, sorrow nor is love cheating, lies, manipulation, agitation, deception, dependency, abusive .. so much love is not! When we are in relations with someone and these qualities are present .. we know our love is a product of the mind. We know that our relationship has its roots in the past. For all these sensations arise out of the manifestation of past thoughts. ...more later. my brain hurts. :p